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auntieh
Rank; Really should become a politician
United Kingdom
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Posted - 22/09/2007 : 18:27:44
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Sorry Alan I'd forgotten that. Good job you both have such wonderful senses of humour!
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sammy
Rank; Really should become a politician
690 Posts |
Posted - 22/09/2007 : 19:14:15
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>>they may even be able to send your Lass under the bridge with her handbag.>>
Al, she did and earned £274.10 in one night.
I asked who gave her 10p, she said all of em?
And Al I wouldn't last 5 minutes in Newcastle, you is right cos its tooo bloody cold, friggin global warming aint affected Newcastle yet, even the polar bears are buying all the council houses up.
Even that bloody jimmy nail's crocodile shoes have hibernated -;))
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sammy
Rank; Really should become a politician
690 Posts |
Posted - 22/09/2007 : 19:26:35
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BTW I worked in Whitly Bay many moons ago..I nearly moved there full time but the council said I was to sofisticatedsofphisticated sophisticatered ..soft |
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Alan the Geordie
Da Purple one
2787 Posts |
 Posted - 22/09/2007 : 22:57:07
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Originally posted by sammy
>>they may even be able to send your Lass under the bridge with her handbag.>>
Al, she did and earned £274.10 in one night.
I asked who gave her 10p, she said all of em?
And Al I wouldn't last 5 minutes in Newcastle, you is right cos its tooo bloody cold, friggin global warming aint affected Newcastle yet, even the polar bears are buying all the council houses up.
Even that bloody jimmy nail's crocodile shoes have hibernated -;))
Sammy,
It was a lovely warm day here today (dunno what went wrong!) I went for a nice stroll with No. 1 Son along the quayside and it was sunny and warm enough for us to take our jackets off.
We ended our day in the Newcastle Arms (take a look; http://newcastlearms.co.uk/default.aspx) where we enjoyed a few pints.
It was a really nice day.
"Broons aall roond f'th' lads an' mind ye divvent drop yer dottles on th' new proggy mat!!"
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Larn-Yersel-Geordie-Scott-Dobson/dp/0946928010 |
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Alan the Geordie
Da Purple one
2787 Posts |
Posted - 22/09/2007 : 23:07:30
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Originally posted by sammy
BTW I worked in Whitly Bay many moons ago..I nearly moved there full time but the council said I was to sofisticatedsofphisticated sophisticatered ..soft
Aye, that's the word you're looking for! 
Whitley Bay is in decline just now, as Newcastle Quayside was back in the '70's, but there's talk of a regeneration programme starting soon.
My ex-wife & I have been talking about getting back together and have been looking at houses in Whitley Bay with a view to buying one while the prices are still relatively cheap, and hoping to make some money when the area is regenerated - just as others did at the Quayside.
It all depends of course on ex-wife Ann making a decision on our reunification and sticking to it.
At present, our relationship is on and of with the same frequency as her knickers!
"Broons aall roond f'th' lads an' mind ye divvent drop yer dottles on th' new proggy mat!!"
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Larn-Yersel-Geordie-Scott-Dobson/dp/0946928010 |
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Alan the Geordie
Da Purple one
2787 Posts |
Posted - 22/09/2007 : 23:09:10
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Originally posted by auntieh
Sorry Alan I'd forgotten that. Good job you both have such wonderful senses of humour!
Whey said that??
Wasn't me.
Are ye sure?
Whey aye man! wid aah lie t'ye? Aahm not Tax Credits ye knaa!
Ye'd berra not be!!
(wish aah cud git shot o' these voice in me heed!)
"Broons aall roond f'th' lads an' mind ye divvent drop yer dottles on th' new proggy mat!!"
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Larn-Yersel-Geordie-Scott-Dobson/dp/0946928010 |
Edited by - Alan the Geordie on 22/09/2007 23:14:19 |
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brewster
Rank; Hector Tax Inspector
United Kingdom
10 Posts |
Posted - 23/09/2007 : 11:26:12
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Hi all with reference to DLA that seems nonsence, my son was getting DLA at middle and lower rate and claimed Tax credits no problem (the only problem was we bothered to claim in the first place) his DLA stopped last November, and though they reckon they dont liase with other agencies, as a test I was determined to put off telling them that his DLA was stopping until a few weeks before. however low and behold before I had told them they sent a new award with a thank you for telling us about a change of circumstances, I never told them so the DLA dept must have done. in fact I have read that when you claim tax credits under DLA they are supposed to be able to back date the claim 3 months or sometimes more this didn't happen either.
Thats were his overpayment came from because when I first claimed he had been off work for over 12 months so naturally didnt earn much that year, being stupid like everyone else I thought they paid you for what you had earned the previous year, so naturally when he went back to work he was still in receipt of DLA but naturally his earnings went up and because it was 2005/2006 they only had to rise by £2500, and Im still arguing.in fact we only started claiming in 2005 so all this mess in 2 years AHHHHHHHHHHH I have just realises that I did all my claims on line and still have a print off It asks if you are disabled I ticked yes and then do you receive DLA at the (highest care component)or attendance allowance and I ticked No this was all on line and yet they said in all their forms that I quialify for the disability element.ps I have just been on tax credite online do I qualify, and if you tick disabled then go on to highlighted green bit disabled it only says are you getting DLA thats all no mention of higher limit |
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splashin
Rank; Undercover HMRC Spy
Belize
446 Posts |
Posted - 23/09/2007 : 22:02:33
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Originally posted by brewster
Hi all with reference to DLA that seems nonsence, my son was getting DLA at middle and lower rate and claimed Tax credits no problem (the only problem was we bothered to claim in the first place) his DLA stopped last November, and though they reckon they dont liase with other agencies, as a test I was determined to put off telling them that his DLA was stopping until a few weeks before. however low and behold before I had told them they sent a new award with a thank you for telling us about a change of circumstances, I never told them so the DLA dept must have done. in fact I have read that when you claim tax credits under DLA they are supposed to be able to back date the claim 3 months or sometimes more this didn't happen either.
Thats were his overpayment came from because when I first claimed he had been off work for over 12 months so naturally didnt earn much that year, being stupid like everyone else I thought they paid you for what you had earned the previous year, so naturally when he went back to work he was still in receipt of DLA but naturally his earnings went up and because it was 2005/2006 they only had to rise by £2500, and Im still arguing.in fact we only started claiming in 2005 so all this mess in 2 years AHHHHHHHHHHH I have just realises that I did all my claims on line and still have a print off It asks if you are disabled I ticked yes and then do you receive DLA at the (highest care component)or attendance allowance and I ticked No this was all on line and yet they said in all their forms that I qualify for the disability element.ps I have just been on tax credit on line do I qualify, and if you tick disabled then go on to highlighted green bit disabled it only says are you getting DLA thats all no mention of higher limit
Hi Brewster
I know of many cases are similar to this. And I'm led to believe that most of them have been cause by the advisor's who answer the helpline, asking if there is anyone disabled in the household, this is a question which should have some type of follow up questionnaire, which would then clarify if your disabled you mean is the disabled HMRC mean. Just because there might be a person who is disabled in the house doesn't mean they claim DAL. I've also heard overpayment's have been caused by the hours worked has been wiped out by some computer error, thus showing the applicant has been paid tax credits with a disability when they worked NIL hours, obviously this super computer wouldn't keep steadily paying a person WTC if the number of hours worked was showing as nil. These overpayment's have always occurred after the period elapsed, which means someone or somehow there hours worked history has been wiped. Any comments welcome......
   
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splashin
Rank; Undercover HMRC Spy
Belize
446 Posts |
Posted - 24/09/2007 : 22:01:57
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Sorry should of said DLA...
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dune
Rank; Hector Tax Inspector
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Posted - 09/10/2007 : 20:14:34
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That is exactly my predicament. They NEVER stipulated that I need to be in reciept of a certain rate. I have kept the guidance form that accompanyied the application as proof.
As for an update on my situation I have heard nothing from the TCO at all, but have written to my MP. I am sure as with all politicians he'll just ignore it, too much like hard work. Has nyone had a positve intervention from thier MP? |
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Alan the Geordie
Da Purple one
2787 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2007 : 21:45:47
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Originally posted by dune
That is exactly my predicament. They NEVER stipulated that I need to be in reciept of a certain rate. I have kept the guidance form that accompanyied the application as proof.
As for an update on my situation I have heard nothing from the TCO at all, but have written to my MP. I am sure as with all politicians he'll just ignore it, too much like hard work. Has nyone had a positve intervention from thier MP?
Yes I have, but having said that, he came on board just as I was finishing the mopping-up operation that followed my victory over HMRC Tax Credits.
I have written to him re; Tax Credits several times since, and he has always seemed interested and has asked questions - and received answers - on my behalf.
His name is Dave Anderson and he's a New Labour Geordie MP.
"Broons aall roond f'th' lads an' mind ye divvent drop yer dottles on th' new proggy mat!!"
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Larn-Yersel-Geordie-Scott-Dobson/dp/0946928010 |
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splashin
Rank; Undercover HMRC Spy
Belize
446 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2007 : 23:46:16
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Originally posted by dune
That is exactly my predicament. They NEVER stipulated that I need to be in reciept of a certain rate. I have kept the guidance form that accompanyied the application as proof.
As for an update on my situation I have heard nothing from the TCO at all, but have written to my MP. I am sure as with all politicians he'll just ignore it, too much like hard work. Has nyone had a positve intervention from thier MP?
Dune
Was it a single claim or a joint claim? Are these different amounts from different years, check the dates and let me know please?
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Alan the Geordie
Da Purple one
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dune
Rank; Hector Tax Inspector
15 Posts |
Posted - 30/10/2007 : 22:01:12
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Just logged on to see whats happening. Ive written to my MP who has sent a lovely little postcard through the post. Guess what it was followed by a letter from the TC second tier complaints saying that they hoped to have my case sorted by December! I beleive that ...not
They didnt even have the curtiousy to reply to the letter I sent them a few months back...
I have heard nothing more about the threaten court action. I wonder if it due to the MP or will i get any further communications from him?
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Alan the Geordie
Da Purple one
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Posted - 30/10/2007 : 22:09:05
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Hi Dune
Nice to see you again!
It looks like a laxative has been administered where it was needed most!
It's not an HMRC thing to be courteous - they probably see it as a sign of weakness.
The rest of us in the "real" world see it for what it really is - arrogance, contempt and plain pig-ignorance.
Regarding the threatened Court Action, this should not happen while you are in dispute and if it does make sure that you get straight on to your MP.
"Broons aall roond f'th' lads an' divvent hoy yer liggies doon th' netty!!"
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Robert
Da Purple one
United Kingdom
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Posted - 30/10/2007 : 22:09:42
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Hi Dune.
probably like the rest off us, the reply will be, its still all your fault..unless they actually own up for once..if you do get the first letter, it will be time to complain, and appeal again, agaist their decision.. and get your case looked at by the Adjudicator.. keep us informed,if you need any help, just come back and ask..
The truth is out there.. GO get it......Non Illigitamus Carborundum
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dune
Rank; Hector Tax Inspector
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Posted - 30/10/2007 : 22:35:23
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| I dont see how they can as I have quoted thier documents in the complaint...If they cant see the logic i dont know what else to do except complain again. I still connot belive that the advisor said that even though i was in recipet of what they wanted i would still have to complain to get it sorted! Just imagine running a private company like that!!!! |
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splashin
Rank; Undercover HMRC Spy
Belize
446 Posts |
Posted - 31/10/2007 : 20:18:43
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Dune
It beggars belief I know. I would like to see a private company operate the tax credits system at least then there would be someone who could be held responsible to these MAJOR cock up's. HMRC are a law unto themselves, they write the laws, then flout them, then preach them to claimants, then flout their own rules again (should it suit them).
Don't let sleeping dog's lie!!!!
Fight to the end.
 
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auntieh
Rank; Really should become a politician
United Kingdom
619 Posts |
Posted - 31/10/2007 : 21:29:41
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Originally posted by dune
I dont see how they can as I have quoted thier documents in the complaint...If they cant see the logic i dont know what else to do except complain again. I still connot belive that the advisor said that even though i was in recipet of what they wanted i would still have to complain to get it sorted! Just imagine running a private company like that!!!!
Don't rely on logic Dune. HMRC's version is different to that of mankind in general. |
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dune
Rank; Hector Tax Inspector
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Posted - 31/10/2007 : 22:06:07
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If I have to I will take it all the way. I am fed up with this hanging over my head. I really just wish they would get thier finger out so I can either forget it or move on to the next stage.
I will move out of the country before I pay them a penny back. I am lucky that I can get a job abroad within a few days (I am a Chartered Civil Engineer)and be packed up and moved within two months.. It might just be the reason I do finally decide to leave this bloody country! |
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Disabled problems / Overpayment
