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sadmiss
Rank; Hector Tax Inspector


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Posted - 22/07/2008 :  01:04:12  Show Profile Send sadmiss a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi I got my Credits sorted (I hope).
I started a new claim in April but they paid me for the 2 months before, which is the usual procedure I think. I have recieved info about my claim but as yet no request for repayment of the 2 months. I am tempted to use this money but I know they will want it back at some stage. (I have informed them that I wasn't due money for this time)
When do they ask for the repayment.
Thanks

Ali M-W
Da Tech(y ones)



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Posted - 22/07/2008 :  08:22:09  Show Profile  Visit Ali M-W's Homepage Send Ali M-W a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Sadmiss - I think we need Miss Froy on this one.

It's always safer - and the right thing to do - to put aside any money you suspect you might not be entitled to, until you have checked with the TCO that, according to their calculations, it is rightfully yours. It was suggested to me by an HMRC insider that it was better to get two opinions from the Helpline, not just the one, and to make good notes of the date, time of call, Helpline worker's name, and exactly what (s)he said. That way, if you spend the money and HMRC subsequently have a re-think and decide it wasn't right, you then have proof that you used it in completely good faith, and a far better chance of not ending up in debt.

Lots of case winners here were able to cite calls such as these. The problem, of course, comes if HMRC can't (or won't?) trace and provide the call, but as Chrisp pointed out in another thread, if you have had multiple calls all saying the same thing, you are better protected, since questions can be asked of HMRC if they 'lose' more than one call on the same topic. It becomes a bit more than 'misfortune' then.

If you check everything you are unsure about, you will be better protected against error and miscarriage of justice, especially as HMRC's word is always preferred over the claimants. All people are equal, but some, it seems, are more equal than others.

Trinity: The answer is out there… and it's looking for you, and it will find you if you want it to.
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Ali M-W
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Posted - 22/07/2008 :  08:25:43  Show Profile  Visit Ali M-W's Homepage Send Ali M-W a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would just add, too, that how you send the money back - if you do - is crucial. Get Miss Froy to advise you on that one, too, if it comes to it. I have a friend who returned three cheques to a Tax Office by prior appointment and had them all signed in by an official, only to have one Helluva fight on her hands proving the money had all come back! I say this not to frighten you, but just to pre-warn you to take whatever precautions you can. The downside of HMRC having no accountability at all is that sloppy practice only wounds us, and not them, and isn't stamped out as rigorously as it would be in industry or in the jobs we all do. Maybe the next administration will change that. Here's hoping.

Trinity: The answer is out there… and it's looking for you, and it will find you if you want it to.
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missfroy2
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Posted - 22/07/2008 :  08:52:02  Show Profile Send missfroy2 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi

What makes you think that you are not entitled to the money? Normally you should receive backdating for 3 months, providing that during that 3 months you met the criteria.

It would be useful to know:

1. When did you send the application form?
2. When did they start the claim?
3. What were you doing before April?

MF
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sadmiss
Rank; Hector Tax Inspector



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Posted - 22/07/2008 :  10:53:59  Show Profile Send sadmiss a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi,thanks for the replies. I know I definitely owe them. I had someone staying with me for these 2 months but he moved out in April when I started my claim. So basically I started claiming in April when I became single again.
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missfroy2
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Posted - 22/07/2008 :  11:45:11  Show Profile Send missfroy2 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ok, so you were not entitled for those 2 months.

Did you request backdating or did they do it automatically? I find it odd that they only gave 2 months - the default is 93 days for backdating.

Did you start a new job or anything in those 3 months prior to the claim?

Is it a claim for Working Tax Credit or Child Tax Credit or both?

MF2

Edited by - missfroy2 on 24/07/2008 16:21:20
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sadmiss
Rank; Hector Tax Inspector



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Posted - 22/07/2008 :  16:44:12  Show Profile Send sadmiss a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi its a claim for both. They gave the backdate automatically. It may be more than 2 months, I'll need to check now that you say this. Didn't start a new job in the previous months but I had a partner staying.
Anyway all I want to know is when will they ask for the money back ;-)
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