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Posted - 18/06/2008 :  10:36:43  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
Peaceful and powerful...

This is the only thing that will jolt the government into any sort of sit up position. I was a great labour supporter however its lost its way as far as I'm concerned especially around it's socialist routes.

Disruption will cost THEM money....thats the only thing that talks.

As a mother of a 10 year old and 13 year old I am more than happy to stand in line and be counted.

A demonstration is the only way.

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Posted - 18/06/2008 :  11:24:59  Show Profile Send Alan the Geordie a Private Message
I agree.

The only problem is that we would probably have a grand total of seven marchers!

"Dave Anderson (Labour) MP for Blaydon rocks!!"
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Posted - 18/06/2008 :  14:16:28  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
I really feel that people need to take resposibility in what they believe in...nothing winds me up more than the apathy of this country.

We are turning into a nation of people who want instant gratification with little effort or energy...

What messages are we sending to our children...

Put up with behaviour or policies that are just not just?
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Posted - 18/06/2008 :  19:11:38  Show Profile Send Alan the Geordie a Private Message
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Originally posted by button1

I really feel that people need to take resposibility in what they believe in...nothing winds me up more than the apathy of this country.

We are turning into a nation of people who want instant gratification with little effort or energy...

What messages are we sending to our children...

Put up with behaviour or policies that are just not just?



I agree entirely with you.

We have the Government, Health Service, Public Transport, inept money-grabbing local authorities telling us what to put in our bins and of course the shambles that is HMRC & Tax Credits that we deserve because for far too long apathy has ruled ok.



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Posted - 18/06/2008 :  21:49:28  Show Profile Send familytaxcredit a Private Message
Yes I also agree, the country has gone 'don't give a ****'
Look at the latest stuff..Ireland says no to the Lisboa treaty (at least they had a vote!) what do our rulers say..bollox to them we are going to ratify. But they can't it is illegal. Ignore the law as usual, they have guys and dolls acting like z-list celebs, coining it in breaking law after law...what do we do? nothing. It surely cannot last,,can it?
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Posted - 18/06/2008 :  21:53:30  Show Profile Send auntieh a Private Message
Look at what the petrol tanker drivers have done. A few days disruption and they have secured a 14% pay deal over two years (which we will all be paying for).

"You can dress a pig in a suit but you can't stop it grunting"
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Posted - 18/06/2008 :  22:11:27  Show Profile Send familytaxcredit a Private Message
auntieh, yes maybe we will indirectly, but they secured the pay rise through shell, their company..not the public sector. Tanker drivers are now the new power. It does show exactly how much the oil companies are making...
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Posted - 18/06/2008 :  22:22:01  Show Profile Send auntieh a Private Message
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Originally posted by familytaxcredit

auntieh, yes maybe we will indirectly, but they secured the pay rise through shell, their company..not the public sector. Tanker drivers are now the new power. It does show exactly how much the oil companies are making...



Exactly my point. It's irrelevant really whether we're talking about the public or private sector. The fact is a particular group has got it wants by means of a campaign of disruption (that's what a strike is). Seems to be the way to go!

"You can dress a pig in a suit but you can't stop it grunting"
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Posted - 18/06/2008 :  23:11:37  Show Profile Send Alan the Geordie a Private Message
>>The fact is a particular group has got it wants by means of a campaign of disruption (that's what a strike is). Seems to be the way to go!<<

Aye, exactly.

Which is one of the reasons why I posted so many letters, Christmas cards & blank CDs during Christmas.

If everyone had done the same it would have caused som disruption in Brown, Darling & kennedy's mailrooms.

A small disruption maybe, but a disruption nevertheless!!

"Dave Anderson (Labour) MP for Blaydon rocks!!"

Edited by - Alan the Geordie on 18/06/2008 23:25:00
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Posted - 18/06/2008 :  23:20:54  Show Profile Send familytaxcredit a Private Message
Tanker drivers got their rise thru their employers, not the government. Therefore there is a difference. Most whom work in the civil service are labour luvvies anyhow.

Public sector workers rarely strike, the teachers moan, the police moan, civil servants moan, yet they are bound by their contracts. Some could strike, but their action would cause minimal public disruption. For instance if hmrc staff went on strike tomorrow no one would be affected (maybe theyíve been on strike for years?)
If benefit agency staff went on strike, emergency measures are in place.

When tanker drivers go on strike it is serious for the whole country, (that is what a strike is -;)

Hence from the Thatcher years union power (re miners strike has been vastly curtailed)

The problem for the government is, once a powerful union is diminished, another springs up. Think about it, just imagine the chaos if supermarket staff went on strike! Iíve no doubt they will be in position to do so one day.
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Posted - 18/06/2008 :  23:27:32  Show Profile Send Alan the Geordie a Private Message
>>Think about it, just imagine the chaos if supermarket staff went on strike! Iíve no doubt they will be in position to do so one day.<<

Standing in a queue at ASDA this evening, I thought they HAD gone on strike!!!

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Posted - 18/06/2008 :  23:33:46  Show Profile Send familytaxcredit a Private Message
I was in a well known supermarket last xmas...at checkout...'excuse me, can i ask your age' Errr why'..cos you have wine in trolly..Oh ok..I'm 98 and a half...thank you sir..I aint going there again for believing me..
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