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Alan the Geordie
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Posted - 22/08/2010 :  16:41:30  Show Profile Send Alan the Geordie a Private Message
<< Ms Perchard described how the £5bn cost to government through fraud and error was “dwarfed” by the £17bn of benefits and tax credits that remain unclaimed every year because people don’t know what they’re entitled to and the system is too complicated. >>

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Jo_B
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Posted - 23/08/2010 :  14:05:28  Show Profile Send Jo_B a Private Message
its mind blowing that statistic, so does that mean were offering too much beenfits and people still not getting them while they can
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Alan the Geordie
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Posted - 23/08/2010 :  17:26:02  Show Profile Send Alan the Geordie a Private Message
As far as I'm concerned, claiming tax credits is more dangerous than playing Russian Roulette with a revolver with only one empty chamber!!

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In this way the people will not see those rights and freedoms being removed until past the point at which these changes cannot be reversed."

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Jo_B
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Posted - 24/08/2010 :  11:46:31  Show Profile Send Jo_B a Private Message
very very true, someone i know claimed and it turned out she was mis-calulated and given about a grand too much and they wanted it back, NOW.
she had to mess about with contacting tax office about it and eventrully sorted out and paid it off in installments
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Ali M-W
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Posted - 24/08/2010 :  22:52:37  Show Profile Send Ali M-W a Private Message
As the henchmen get sent in to recover overpayments from the innocent, a Tory speaks out:

Max Wind-Cowie, of the think-tank Demos, said the government should focus more on preventing mistakes in benefit payments than in correcting errors: "It is expensive for individuals and families living in poverty who, through no fault of their own, are asked to pay back large sums of money."


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Posted - 25/08/2010 :  00:53:35  Show Profile Send Alan the Geordie a Private Message
<< Max Wind-Cowie, of the think-tank Demos ..... >>

He sounds like the bloke who should be in charge of these ghastly wind turbine farms that are springing up like mushrooms all over the place - and often in the wrong place!!

"The best way to take control over a people and control them utterly is to take a little of their freedom at a time, to erode rights by a thousand tiny and almost imperceptible reductions.

In this way the people will not see those rights and freedoms being removed until past the point at which these changes cannot be reversed."

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Jo_B
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Posted - 25/08/2010 :  15:19:49  Show Profile Send Jo_B a Private Message

Max Wind-Cowie, of the think-tank Demos, said the government should focus more on preventing mistakes in benefit payments than in correcting errors: "It is expensive for individuals and families living in poverty who, through no fault of their own, are asked to pay back large sums of money."

i agree with that as they need to sort out the guidleines to make sure the money is going where its meant to be.
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Posted - 02/09/2010 :  07:58:13  Show Profile Send Ali M-W a Private Message
I thought this article was interesting:

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Particularly this quote:

Figures provided by Her Majesty’s Revenue and Custom (HMRC) shows that the amounts overpaid to claimants is £2.1 billion (of which some £460 million was due to fraud). Meanwhile there were errors of some £260m where claimants were underpaid...Left out is any reference to the £1.6 billion where the government underpaid eligible claimants – unless, of course, the government is only planning to crackdown on errors in its favour and ignore errors that leave vulnerable claimants underpaid?



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