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| familytaxcredit |
Posted - 15/12/2007 : 13:00:21
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/12/14/police_stop_cd_search/ |
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| Ali M-W |
Posted - 11/02/2008 : 07:22:46
Is it £5.99 per person or £5.99 per pack?
How many 'Broon Dogs' can you get for £6?
Anyone fancy following this up?
Morpheus: The Matrix is everywhere. It is…the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.
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| Alan the Geordie |
Posted - 11/02/2008 : 01:33:33
Nice one Auntie
From that link; "So far 14,000 people have registered with Alternative Dispute Resolution Services, a legal assistance firm based in Newcastle-upon Tyne, which is offering a £5.99 pack to help them pursue a claim against the Government.
Director Philip Knight said: "A letter saying sorry for its mistake is all very well, but the Revenue has failed to mention that the loss of this personal information is a clear breach of the Data Protection Act.
"Under that law, anyone affected by the loss of personal data is entitled to claim compensation from those who were responsible for mishandling it.""
I'm very pleased to see that it's a GEORDIE Legal Assistance Firm that's leading the way!
(We divvent mess aboot ye knaa!)
Geordie: "Alreet, de ye fancy a Broon?"
English: "Hello, fancy coming for a drink?" |
| auntieh |
Posted - 10/02/2008 : 21:26:13
More developments on the missing data. Looks like people are hitting back. Good for them!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=513344&in_page_id=1770
"You can dress a pig in a suit but you can't stop it grunting" |
| Alan the Geordie |
Posted - 09/02/2008 : 11:58:42
>>Would your MP put up with this? I think not!
I am compiling evidence of security breaches such as these.>>
When you have your compilation ready, I would be happy to send a copy to my MP.
Geordie: "Alreet, de ye fancy a Broon?"
English: "Hello, fancy coming for a drink?" |
| Ali M-W |
Posted - 09/02/2008 : 08:23:42
We all know that it isn't just data discs that HMRC is reckless with, and lose. How many of us have sent off SARN requests (ie. for all the dicuments held by HMRC about our awards, and any phone calls made), only to find calls and letters missing, that we know to exist? Maybe even crucial ones to our defence? (How very convenient!)
Twice recently, local people have contacted me about serious breaches of confidentiality by HMRC, with their details going to other people, and vice versa.
Do you really want your next door neighbour to know - before you - that HMRC wants to take you to court for owing them money?
Would your MP put up with this? I think not!
I am compiling evidence of security breaches such as these. Please post here, or drop me a line, if something of this kind has affected you.
Thanks - Ali.
Morpheus: The Matrix is everywhere. It is…the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.
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| Ali M-W |
Posted - 27/01/2008 : 09:27:57
Were those data discs ever made? It's not like HMRC to be responsive and forthcoming with information, exactly. Perhaps it was just someone's Bonnie Tyler collection in those disc drives and they were shirking all the time, wouldn't own up?
Deliciously irony for them, too, if a bloke lost his job for missing CDs which never were, and the person who should've made them up and delivered them never did (but is just keeping quiet).
We all know about HMRC keeping quiet, don't we?
Oracle: What do all men with power want? More power.
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| Alan the Geordie |
Posted - 26/01/2008 : 22:50:30
quote:
Originally posted by familytaxcredit
Hey Al I'm not avin no Jock call me a cockney -;))
Nice one Bonny Lad.
The Jocks aren't too bad - a bit like us Geordies but without the brain!
They did have a nasty habit a while back of sneaking over the border to steal our women & rape our cattle, but they're OK now.
Geordie: "Yon lass's gorra fyece lyke a bagga spanners!"
English: "That lady's face is rather unnatractive" |
| familytaxcredit |
Posted - 26/01/2008 : 21:56:04
and...hmrc took me to court with wrong ni details, maybe the bailifs will steal stuff from a none existant person? Thats gonna be real tricky to explain when I go to Europe...err scuse me sir, they stole my gear but i was invisible, they stole stuff from the invisible man. This is me honest sir, I can assure you i am not invisible, this really is me. The revenue banged down my door, i stood there naked..no clothes at all, yet they still said I was the invisible man (must get some viagra next time..-;)) |
| familytaxcredit |
Posted - 26/01/2008 : 21:46:06
Hey Al I'm not avin no Jock call me a cockney -;)) |
| Ali M-W |
Posted - 26/01/2008 : 10:17:33
Alan therefore volunteers.... Well done, that Geordie!
Oracle: What do all men with power want? More power.
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| Alan the Geordie |
Posted - 26/01/2008 : 10:13:58
>>I did start to liaise with them before starting to feel edgy that they might be a little right-wing. What do others think?>>
I think any enemy of my enemy must be my friend!
And it's MY neck of the woods - Sammy's almost a Cockney!
Geordie: "Yon lass's gorra fyece lyke a bagga spanners!"
English: "That lady's face is rather unnatractive" |
| Ali M-W |
Posted - 26/01/2008 : 06:47:38
Sounds like Alan and Sammy's neck of the woods to me?
Oracle: What do all men with power want? More power.
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| Ali M-W |
Posted - 26/01/2008 : 06:46:50
...Although maybe it wouldn't hurt to get this Campaign group adding its voice... North East, you say?
Oracle: What do all men with power want? More power.
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| Ali M-W |
Posted - 26/01/2008 : 06:45:45
I did wonder if we were the 'Campaign Group', but it turns out to be the Taypayers' Alliance.
I did start to liaise with them before starting to feel edgy that they might be a little right-wing. What do others think?
Oracle: What do all men with power want? More power.
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| Alan the Geordie |
Posted - 25/01/2008 : 17:45:51
From the Newcastle Journal newspaper 23 January 2008
Campaign group accuses HMRC office of chaos
Jan 23 2008 by William Green, The Journal
BOSSES at HM Revenue & Customs are facing damaging claims it was in “chaos” even before the loss of 25 million personal records from a regional office last year.
The Government has confirmed to MPs that hundreds of jobs have been axed at the Washington office of HMRC – where the information disappeared – since 2005 and 179 staff in the North-East have been dismissed in the past three years.
Private postal contractors have been paid £226m to handle the organisation’s mail since 2005, with 300 million pieces of outgoing post dealt with by HMRC in 2006-07.
Ministers have refused to say how much consultant PricewaterhouseCoopers is being paid to review HMRC’s data handling, saying it is a “commercially confidential” contract.
The sorry saga continues here; http://www.journallive.co.uk/north-east-news/todays-news/2008/01/23/campaign-group-accuses-hmrc-office-of-chaos-61634-20382432/
Geordie: "Yon lass's gorra fyece lyke a bagga spanners!"
English: "That lady's face is rather unnatractive" |
| Ali M-W |
Posted - 25/01/2008 : 07:04:52
As Alan says, using this this link, http://www.theyworkforyou.com/ , will find you your MP, and anything topical which comes up and has links with the tax credit fiasco or shows the cracks in this government can be sent on with relative ease to your MP.
These data losses show how reckless government departments, particularly the shamefully arrogant HMRC, are with our data. This shows their contempt for us, irresponsibility, and how they cannot protect our information. It makes a complete joke of HMRC claims (just look at every news story of victims with massive overpayments that there is, when the broken-record HMRC response is, 'claimants have a duty to declare changes of circumstances promptly', or some glib variation of that)that errors are purely due to us not telling them things! Try 'telling them things but they lose our letters/calls, don't act upon it, or get it completely wrong'!
Now that we are all disputing our unjust overpayments and insisting on proper explanations of what went wrong (just out of curiosity, has anyone yet received an explanation they understand and which doesn't involve countless HMRC mistakes and omissions? Or just gobbledook and confusing figures to try to blurr the underlying issues?), we are ensuring HMRC have to at least find out what went wrong first, and do some work. This not only gives us a shot at getting some justice individually, but tells the powers that be that happy bunnies we ain't. Now what we need to do is start telling the government and opposition, via our MPs, that we are none too pleased about this whole regime, its disregard for the individual, and its dangerous recklessness with out details.
It seems Alan is going to do the hard work for us - find the stories and post his MP letters here, for us to crib from! So for the price of a stamp, we can tell our elected representatives what we really think of this mess, and encourage some change!
Power shouldn't rest purely with policians and powerful institutions - it should be in the hands of the people.
Oracle: What do all men with power want? More power.
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| Alan the Geordie |
Posted - 21/01/2008 : 10:14:54
Thank you Ali
Please see my latest; http://familytaxcredit.forumco.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=666#6480
and get writing to your MPs!
(use this link; http://www.theyworkforyou.com/ to find and send your message to your MP)
ALL of you please!
Geordie: "Yon lass's gorra fyece lyke a bagga spanners!"
English: "That lady's face is rather unnatractive" |
| Ali M-W |
Posted - 21/01/2008 : 08:08:37
One thing we could all easily do is write to, or email, our MPs expressing our concern that HMRC can be so reckless with our personal data and yet an apology is all we get. Meanwhile, they overpay nearly two million people almost two billion pounds in tax credit overpayments each year and expect us to repay it, when they have made the mistakes. It is tails they win, heads we lose all the way, and any self-respecting Labour MP should be hanging their heads in shame, what with this and now the Hain donations scandal (you know, 'ignorance is bliss'. Try telling that to Tax Credit Casualties! 'Ignorance is blame', more like!). Opposition MPs will be having a field day! Every day, Nu Labour seem more and more like those 'four legs good, two legs bad' pigs in Orwell's Animal Farm, going back on their principles [sic] and turning into something quite different from what it said on their tin. I do think - like Alan - that we need to communicate with our MPs - not just about our tax credit disputes but the conduct of those in power generally. We will not win this by waiting for angels to visit Ministers in dreams and show them the error of their ways, but by letting them know exactly what we think of this oppressive regime.
Oracle: What do all men with power want? More power.
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| auntieh |
Posted - 13/01/2008 : 13:05:04
quote:
Originally posted by Ali M-W
The Home Office has produced this, for people concerned about ID fraud, now that their data has gone AWOL. I haven't read it, but it may be good for a laugh:
http://www.identity-theft.org.uk/id_fraud_customer_advice_leaflet.pdf
Oracle: What do all men with power want? More power.
Typical that this leaflet doesn't come straight out and say that you are at risk of Identity Theft due to the level of detail that has been lost, but there is a massive risk of course. Probably more than of having your bank account 'raided' because this is generally something fraudsters can only get away with short term until you notice it and get your bank to stop any transactions. ID theft is much more insidious and it can take months if not years to discover you are a victim.
Auntie
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| Ali M-W |
Posted - 12/01/2008 : 21:06:07
There is something about 18th October. I am being dogged by that date!
That's when the data discs went missing (with yours truly's details on it, ho hum):
http://www.identity-theft.org.uk/hmrc_press_release.html
And that's the date on the Award notice in which HMRC stitched me up in 2004.
It's also the date Kennedy gave her speech in the Commons about 'consultations' aimed at 'improving the customer experience of tax credits', but with absolutely no intention on letting a scummy Tax Credit Casualty (ugh) through the door.
It's not Brown, Darling, Kennedy or Primarostrich's birthday by any chance, is it?
Oracle: What do all men with power want? More power.
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